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	<title>Comments on: TNIV Reference Bible: Thy Cup Runneth Over!</title>
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		<title>By: Gen-X Bible thumper seeks TNIV&#8230; &#171; He is sufficient</title>
		<link>http://heissufficient.com/2007/08/06/tniv-reference-bible-thy-cup-runneth-over/#comment-137</link>
		<dc:creator>Gen-X Bible thumper seeks TNIV&#8230; &#171; He is sufficient</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 19:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Bible: the aforementioned Church Bible hardback and the TNIV Reference Bible, which I critiqued in an earlier post (and which has not been published yet, due out at the end of the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Quick look: NLT &#8220;Discover God&#8221; Study Bible &#171; He is sufficient</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quick look: NLT &#8220;Discover God&#8221; Study Bible &#171; He is sufficient</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (more kudos!); I haven&#8217;t seen a specific number, but there are definitely fewer than the TNIV Reference Bible I previously critiqued - more on par with the NASB reference [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] (more kudos!); I haven&#8217;t seen a specific number, but there are definitely fewer than the TNIV Reference Bible I previously critiqued &#8211; more on par with the NASB reference [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Extreme TNIV texts &#171; He is Sufficient</title>
		<link>http://heissufficient.com/2007/08/06/tniv-reference-bible-thy-cup-runneth-over/#comment-135</link>
		<dc:creator>Extreme TNIV texts &#171; He is Sufficient</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 20:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] comes on the heels of my minor rant on the layout of the forthcoming TNIV Reference Bible, which crams 100,000+ cross-references as well [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ElShaddai Edwards</title>
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		<dc:creator>ElShaddai Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 16:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I will finally have a Bible that I can transfer all of my NAS notes into and have all the references I want.&lt;/i&gt;

Really? The sample pages didn&#039;t strike me as having a lot of extra room for notes - definitely not a wide margin edition.

Sorry if you didn&#039;t feel my notes were warranted. I&#039;m not asking for a custom version. I have a particular aesthetic in my mind of what an effective Bible should look like; this blog is my opportunity to comment from that point of view. My ideal Bible is single-column black letter text with cross references that fit on the inside margin and a wide margin on the top, bottom and outside of the page for notes. So far, my NASB cross-reference Bible comes closest. And that&#039;s what I use.

&lt;i&gt;Can you imagine the finance department at Zondervan banging their heads against the wall?&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;ve spent some time recently looking at NIV reference bibles and it&#039;s clear that Zondervan simply adapted the reference notes that appear in those versions for the TNIV. Which I can&#039;t blame them for - it&#039;s definitely more cost effective than creating a new reference system or even trimming an existing one. But economics don&#039;t excuse a poorly designed Bible, which this one borders on, in my opinion. Hopefully it&#039;ll sell despite whatever flaws it has and Zondervan will be encouraged to publish more &quot;serious&quot; editions of the TNIV.

All that said, in the end, it&#039;s the Word that matters, not the wrapper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I will finally have a Bible that I can transfer all of my NAS notes into and have all the references I want.</i></p>
<p>Really? The sample pages didn&#8217;t strike me as having a lot of extra room for notes &#8211; definitely not a wide margin edition.</p>
<p>Sorry if you didn&#8217;t feel my notes were warranted. I&#8217;m not asking for a custom version. I have a particular aesthetic in my mind of what an effective Bible should look like; this blog is my opportunity to comment from that point of view. My ideal Bible is single-column black letter text with cross references that fit on the inside margin and a wide margin on the top, bottom and outside of the page for notes. So far, my NASB cross-reference Bible comes closest. And that&#8217;s what I use.</p>
<p><i>Can you imagine the finance department at Zondervan banging their heads against the wall?</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve spent some time recently looking at NIV reference bibles and it&#8217;s clear that Zondervan simply adapted the reference notes that appear in those versions for the TNIV. Which I can&#8217;t blame them for &#8211; it&#8217;s definitely more cost effective than creating a new reference system or even trimming an existing one. But economics don&#8217;t excuse a poorly designed Bible, which this one borders on, in my opinion. Hopefully it&#8217;ll sell despite whatever flaws it has and Zondervan will be encouraged to publish more &#8220;serious&#8221; editions of the TNIV.</p>
<p>All that said, in the end, it&#8217;s the Word that matters, not the wrapper.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 13:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t wait for the TNIV Reference Bible. I will finally have a Bible that I can transfer all of my NAS notes into and have all the references I want. Maybe we should ask Zondervan to publish one for both of you. With fewer references and in calfskin. Can you imagine the finance department at Zondervan banging their heads against the wall? Seriously, what&#039;s next? The left handed plumbers Bible? Non red letter, reference-lite, no maps in goatskin? Sounds like a good idea!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t wait for the TNIV Reference Bible. I will finally have a Bible that I can transfer all of my NAS notes into and have all the references I want. Maybe we should ask Zondervan to publish one for both of you. With fewer references and in calfskin. Can you imagine the finance department at Zondervan banging their heads against the wall? Seriously, what&#8217;s next? The left handed plumbers Bible? Non red letter, reference-lite, no maps in goatskin? Sounds like a good idea!</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 03:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes - you are so correct about the layout of the TNIV reference. Too much.
Leave off most of the references and you have a nice wide margin (just put it in calfskin).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes &#8211; you are so correct about the layout of the TNIV reference. Too much.<br />
Leave off most of the references and you have a nice wide margin (just put it in calfskin).</p>
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