Comments on: Extreme TNIV texts http://heissufficient.com/2007/08/15/extreme-tniv-texts/ Searching for wit and wisdom in a wilderness of words... Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:51:30 +0000 hourly 1 By: Nathan Stitt http://heissufficient.com/2007/08/15/extreme-tniv-texts/comment-page-1/#comment-151 Nathan Stitt Thu, 17 Apr 2008 06:03:36 +0000 http://heissufficient.wordpress.com/2007/08/15/extreme-tniv-texts/#comment-151 I would settle for a hardback with opaque paper David, but I completely agree that TBOTB is refreshing. I would settle for a hardback with opaque paper David, but I completely agree that TBOTB is refreshing.

]]> By: David Gregg http://heissufficient.com/2007/08/15/extreme-tniv-texts/comment-page-1/#comment-150 David Gregg Thu, 17 Apr 2008 04:36:46 +0000 http://heissufficient.wordpress.com/2007/08/15/extreme-tniv-texts/#comment-150 I have to say that I absolutely love "The Books of the Bible" edition! I figure, if I want study tools I've got a good Bible program for that. Apart from my natural predisposition toward TBOTB and the usual reasons why people like this edition, I'm thinking long-term. Rather than the just-short-of-random book order in the traditional format, The Books of the Bible provides a logical book order. This makes it easy to memorize. Just memorizing this order provides people with some very useful background information about the books they are reading: genre, author, chronological order, subject matter, recipient, etc. The supplemental reading for the book introductions are my favorite that I've found in a printed Bible. This Bible is, potentially, a great Bible study tool, especially for people who want to actively pursue a passion for reading the Word (which is also why I love "The Story" edition). I love teaching how to read, study, and understand the Bible, and this is one of the resources I use and strongly suggest to others. I'd love to have a leatherbound edition of The Books of the Bible. I have to say that I absolutely love “The Books of the Bible” edition! I figure, if I want study tools I’ve got a good Bible program for that. Apart from my natural predisposition toward TBOTB and the usual reasons why people like this edition, I’m thinking long-term. Rather than the just-short-of-random book order in the traditional format, The Books of the Bible provides a logical book order. This makes it easy to memorize. Just memorizing this order provides people with some very useful background information about the books they are reading: genre, author, chronological order, subject matter, recipient, etc. The supplemental reading for the book introductions are my favorite that I’ve found in a printed Bible. This Bible is, potentially, a great Bible study tool, especially for people who want to actively pursue a passion for reading the Word (which is also why I love “The Story” edition). I love teaching how to read, study, and understand the Bible, and this is one of the resources I use and strongly suggest to others. I’d love to have a leatherbound edition of The Books of the Bible.

]]> By: Gary Zimmerli http://heissufficient.com/2007/08/15/extreme-tniv-texts/comment-page-1/#comment-146 Gary Zimmerli Mon, 20 Aug 2007 21:08:48 +0000 http://heissufficient.wordpress.com/2007/08/15/extreme-tniv-texts/#comment-146 Esteban, I hear you about Zondervan's bonded leather. I have a NIV that seems more like cardboard than leather. But the bonded leather of my new TNIV XL at least <i>seems</i> to be more durable and comfortable than other Zondervans I've used. I hate red letter too, but what are we gonna do about it? ;-) Esteban,
I hear you about Zondervan’s bonded leather. I have a NIV that seems more like cardboard than leather. But the bonded leather of my new TNIV XL at least seems to be more durable and comfortable than other Zondervans I’ve used.

I hate red letter too, but what are we gonna do about it? ;-)

]]> By: ElShaddai Edwards http://heissufficient.com/2007/08/15/extreme-tniv-texts/comment-page-1/#comment-144 ElShaddai Edwards Fri, 17 Aug 2007 13:02:43 +0000 http://heissufficient.wordpress.com/2007/08/15/extreme-tniv-texts/#comment-144 <i>But for me, it will have to wait until it’s available in hardcover: Zondervan’s bonded leather is the bane of my soul.</i> It will be interesting to see the binding quality. Zondervan has promised a sewn-binding on the Reference Bible, which hopefully should be more durable than most glued. I agree that a sewn-bound hardback is desirable - my recent purchase of the <a href="http://heissufficient.wordpress.com/2007/08/04/first-look-nrsv-cross-reference-edition-oxford-isbn-0191000167/" rel="nofollow">NRSV Cross-Reference from Oxford</a> is a testament to that. But for me, it will have to wait until it’s available in hardcover: Zondervan’s bonded leather is the bane of my soul.

It will be interesting to see the binding quality. Zondervan has promised a sewn-binding on the Reference Bible, which hopefully should be more durable than most glued. I agree that a sewn-bound hardback is desirable – my recent purchase of the NRSV Cross-Reference from Oxford is a testament to that.

]]> By: voxstefani http://heissufficient.com/2007/08/15/extreme-tniv-texts/comment-page-1/#comment-149 voxstefani Fri, 17 Aug 2007 05:29:02 +0000 http://heissufficient.wordpress.com/2007/08/15/extreme-tniv-texts/#comment-149 I'm glad you did! I've enjoyed browsing your blog as well, and have gathered that we do indeed have similar opinions on matters related to Bible translation and publishing. As for the Foundation edition, that's my take as well. (Even if mine is in the old NASB, and was printed the year before I was born.) But let me tell you--the TNIV Reference Bible looks pretty close to a suitable replacement! Even with the small and crowded print. But for me, it will have to wait until it's available in hardcover: Zondervan's bonded leather is the bane of my soul. Well, that, and red-lettering. :-) I’m glad you did! I’ve enjoyed browsing your blog as well, and have gathered that we do indeed have similar opinions on matters related to Bible translation and publishing.

As for the Foundation edition, that’s my take as well. (Even if mine is in the old NASB, and was printed the year before I was born.) But let me tell you–the TNIV Reference Bible looks pretty close to a suitable replacement! Even with the small and crowded print. But for me, it will have to wait until it’s available in hardcover: Zondervan’s bonded leather is the bane of my soul. Well, that, and red-lettering. :-)

]]> By: Jay http://heissufficient.com/2007/08/15/extreme-tniv-texts/comment-page-1/#comment-148 Jay Thu, 16 Aug 2007 19:35:28 +0000 http://heissufficient.wordpress.com/2007/08/15/extreme-tniv-texts/#comment-148 "which approach do you naturally gravitate toward?" TNIV XL “which approach do you naturally gravitate toward?”

TNIV XL

]]> By: ElShaddai Edwards http://heissufficient.com/2007/08/15/extreme-tniv-texts/comment-page-1/#comment-143 ElShaddai Edwards Thu, 16 Aug 2007 10:21:51 +0000 http://heissufficient.wordpress.com/2007/08/15/extreme-tniv-texts/#comment-143 Gary, thanks for stopping by again. I agree that a good reference Bible is hard to beat, though I still think the TNIV layout is a little over the top. I completely agree that the TBOTB edition would be perfect for devotional reading - I would have thought that a journal-style layout like <a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/assets/bibles/esv.journaling.sample.pdf" rel="nofollow">the new ESV Journaling Bible</a> would be even better. Esteban, I've enjoyed browsing your blog. Count me as a fan of the Foundation NASB Reference Bible as well - until something better comes along, it remains on my desktop. It sounds like we are of a similar mind on such things. Gary, thanks for stopping by again. I agree that a good reference Bible is hard to beat, though I still think the TNIV layout is a little over the top. I completely agree that the TBOTB edition would be perfect for devotional reading – I would have thought that a journal-style layout like the new ESV Journaling Bible would be even better.

Esteban, I’ve enjoyed browsing your blog. Count me as a fan of the Foundation NASB Reference Bible as well – until something better comes along, it remains on my desktop. It sounds like we are of a similar mind on such things.

]]> By: voxstefani http://heissufficient.com/2007/08/15/extreme-tniv-texts/comment-page-1/#comment-147 voxstefani Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:57:33 +0000 http://heissufficient.wordpress.com/2007/08/15/extreme-tniv-texts/#comment-147 I just posted a bit about both the TNIV Reference Bible and The Books of the Bible <a href="http://voxstefani.blogspot.com/2007/08/more-bible-matters.html" rel="nofollow">in my own blog</a> earlier today. I am not in the least bothered by footnotes of verse numbers, nor indeed by two-column formats, but I must admit to a certain preference to single-column, minimalist page layouts. (This is, I suppose, why I've been known to use my Foundation NASB Reference Edition insistently, in spite of cringe-worthy renderings like "how much severer punishment," etc., at Heb. 10:29.) Anyway, I think I will end up buying both the Reference Bible and TBOTB: the former because I lack an adequate edition of the full TNIV, and the latter because I find it appealing for reading extended passages and whole books in one sitting. Esteban I just posted a bit about both the TNIV Reference Bible and The Books of the Bible in my own blog earlier today. I am not in the least bothered by footnotes of verse numbers, nor indeed by two-column formats, but I must admit to a certain preference to single-column, minimalist page layouts. (This is, I suppose, why I’ve been known to use my Foundation NASB Reference Edition insistently, in spite of cringe-worthy renderings like “how much severer punishment,” etc., at Heb. 10:29.) Anyway, I think I will end up buying both the Reference Bible and TBOTB: the former because I lack an adequate edition of the full TNIV, and the latter because I find it appealing for reading extended passages and whole books in one sitting.

Esteban

]]> By: Gary Zimmerli http://heissufficient.com/2007/08/15/extreme-tniv-texts/comment-page-1/#comment-145 Gary Zimmerli Wed, 15 Aug 2007 18:58:58 +0000 http://heissufficient.wordpress.com/2007/08/15/extreme-tniv-texts/#comment-145 Personally, I tend towards a good reference Bible. Generally the references are not so distracting as the notes in a study Bible can be, and I like having them available if I want to check on something. I do like the normal text Bible, with chapters and verses, mainly because they make it so much easier to navigate through the Bible when discussing with other people. But I would miss the references. I think the "Books of the Bible" format is a great idea for personal devotional time. It seems to free one's mind to relax and see the scriptures as they were originally intended to be read. But I'm not so sure it would be a good Bible to use in study, especially when studying with other people. It could be used as a supplement in personal study easily enough. My vote then, is for the full reference Bible. Personally, I tend towards a good reference Bible. Generally the references are not so distracting as the notes in a study Bible can be, and I like having them available if I want to check on something.

I do like the normal text Bible, with chapters and verses, mainly because they make it so much easier to navigate through the Bible when discussing with other people. But I would miss the references.

I think the “Books of the Bible” format is a great idea for personal devotional time. It seems to free one’s mind to relax and see the scriptures as they were originally intended to be read. But I’m not so sure it would be a good Bible to use in study, especially when studying with other people. It could be used as a supplement in personal study easily enough.

My vote then, is for the full reference Bible.

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