Thoughts on changing churches

For the past five years or so, my wife, Cindy, and I (and our family as it’s grown) have attended an Evangelical Covenant Church in our local community. We started going there shortly after we were married and enjoyed it greatly: the senior pastor was kind and a genuine shepherd to his congregation, the worship service was contemporary but not overly staged or show-like, I had the opportunity to regularly play my trombones with the worship band, my wife was involved in children’s ministry, there were many young couples with and without kids – it was just a really good fit for us. It was almost a given that we became members shortly thereafter.

Then there were layoffs of popular staff to meet the budget, the senior pastor retired (and since has gone Home) and an academic professor was hired in his place, massive staff turnover as personalities conflicted, half of our small group left the church, the worship programs became increasingly diluted and passive. Sundays became “church lite” with what seemed like an exclusive vision for megachurch-like evangelism that somehow forgot to feed the congregation already filling the pews. The final nail for us was as my wife saw the children’s ministry become increasingly daycare like, with no education or even interactive activities to reinforce what the kids were learning from us about “church” and our faith.

So this summer, we engaged in some moderate “church shopping” and explored some of the other options in our community. There was the local “megachurch” with lots of programs and stuff going on to get involved in, but I just couldn’t shake the feeling that I was attending a show with elaborately staged music and drama plays in the sermons. I tried to see myself playing with the band on the stage and just couldn’t do it.

So far, the one that’s clicked is the local Baptist church. Neither Cindy or I are from a Baptist background, so it has been a learning experience in many regards, but we especially value their commitment to teaching and children’s education. I had lunch with the worship pastor a month ago and my comment to him was that attending the church has given me a reason to bring my Bible to church again. After several years of PowerPoint scripture reading, it’s refreshing to be told to “open your Bibles to …”

My wife has already started volunteering with the children’s program and in two weeks I’ll be playing with the praise+worship band as part of a new contemporary brass horn line. My oldest son (3 1/2) brings home a bag full of activity sheets every week and tells us about the stories he listened to (this last week was about baby Moses). If I had the time, I could take Sunday School classes on beginner’s Greek and Hebrew. This is good, very good.

Of course, choosing to attend a Baptist church has required some thought and decision making. After growing up in a non-denominational Christian church, I was baptized as an adult in a Lutheran church by sprinkling. My wife was baptized as a child (not infant, not adult), also Lutheran. Neither is ultimately acceptable to the Baptist…. “believe and be baptized”, not “be born and be baptized.” So to become full members, we’ll need to be re-baptized by immersion. And you know what? I’m okay with that.

I’m not the same person I was 10+ years ago. I don’t have the same immature fears or motivations. I’m married. I’m a father. This is a chance to publicly renew my vows with Christ, not get obsessed about the legalism of being baptized again. (For the record, I believe my salvation occurred when I accepted Christ as my Savior. Not when drops of water touched my forehead or when I will be bodily immersed.) I’m looking forward to celebrating those vows with our new local congregation, whenever that day comes. And one day, our kids will choose to be baptized again and declare their faith as conscious believers and that will be another day to celebrate.

Finding a new church home has been an interesting discovery path for us. There have been joyfully silly “must be a God thing” encounters to moments of great awe and services that were met with silence in the heart. We have been blessed to find a place where our desires and gifts to serve have been met with enthusiasm and welcoming.

9/11 edit: I removed a paragraph about Bible translations – it was outside the primary focus of this article. I’ll revisit the issue in a separate post.

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8 Comments

  1. Juan
    Posted September 10, 2007 at 11:03 PM | Permalink

    Great article I hope you find a great church. It took me quite a while to find a church when we moved to San Diego. I just reminded myself to have fun with it.

    Juan

  2. Posted September 10, 2007 at 11:37 PM | Permalink

    I’m glad to hear that your family seems to have found a suitable church home, whose worship life, community character and learning opportunities suit you all. To find all of these things in a local church is considerably harder than it should be, so I deeply rejoice at your favorable new situation, and delight at your obvious spiritual satisfaction.

    Your approach to the question of baptism seems quite sound and sensible to me (at least looking at it in terms of a broadly Evangelical perspective, which as you know, does not represent my own views). I don’t mean to slight the very real and important differences between the pædobaptist and baptist views (some of which are being very ably discussed in some circles these days), but generally speaking, submitting to the discipline of one’s congregation in matters that don’t burden the conscience seems to me far more valuable than raising a stink over every imaginable fine point.

    Esteban

  3. Posted September 11, 2007 at 7:58 AM | Permalink

    Juan – thanks for stopping by and for the encouragement!

    Esteban – I didn’t expect to find a place that fit so well, so fast. We were really struggling to know which way to look. My dad had gone to a bible study there once when he was visiting, so we decided to check it out. From the worship style to the depth and maturity of teaching to the care shown for our kids, it really feels like a church that could be “home”.

    I will admit that my first response to the Baptist view/requirement of immersion baptism was a kneejerk negative, especially since I’d already had a “believer’s baptism” as an adult. But in understanding that being a Christian is not just about my relationship to Christ, but also being a visible part of and accountable to a larger community, I’ve come to agreement and peace on this as a matter of conscience. I’m continuing to read and learn about the baptist view, but not with the heart of a devil’s advocate, but in full earnest.

  4. Posted September 11, 2007 at 2:36 PM | Permalink

    ElShaddai, I wish you well in your new church, but I have serious issues with the baptism question. For your new church is making an issue not of believers’ baptism but of the mode of baptism. Yes, baptism is about “being a visible part of and accountable to a larger community”, but that larger community is not one congregation or denomination but the worldwide church. By requiring rebaptism as they are, and not on the recognised theological grounds that baptism must follow faith, this congregation is essentially proclaiming itself as separate from the worldwide church. I don’t think I could join a congregation which has this attitude.

  5. Posted September 11, 2007 at 3:22 PM | Permalink

    Peter, thanks for the input and concern. Can I ask you to expound a little more on “not on the recognised theological grounds that baptism must follow faith”? I’ve not had a formal conversation with the church about our specific situation, but from what I can tell, their position is “believe and be baptized”, which seems consistent with baptism following faith. Or is your concern that the (ana)baptist view as a whole is separate from the worldwide church? I really do appreciate the help in understanding the nuances of these theological issues – this certainly was not a part of my early Christian education.

  6. Posted September 12, 2007 at 12:25 PM | Permalink

    As I understand it, ElShaddai, you believed and were then baptised, according to the theological position held by your new church. This is the standard Anabaptist position, but note that the original Anabaptists were baptised by sprinkling as you were. So your new church is cutting itself off from the Anabaptist tradition and most of the Baptist one by rejecting your baptism as a believer. Continue to read about the Baptist view of baptism, and you will find that mode i.e. how much water is very much a secondary issue. Your new church is wrong to make it primary.

  7. Mike Zimmerli
    Posted September 12, 2007 at 4:51 PM | Permalink

    ElShaddai, as long as the baptism by immersion is not held out as being required for salvation, I don’t see anything wrong with a new commitment, a new profession of faith and a joining with the local church body. When we joined the Southern Baptist Church here in southeast Georgia a few years ago, we went through the same process. I was raised Methodist – in Redwood Falls, MN, actually – and had been sprinkled as an infant, but never baptized as a believer. My wife was raised Catholic and sprinkled as an infant, also.

    The pastor brought both my wife and I together into the baptismal, and asked us both questions to profess our faith and asked me extra questions as the husband and head of the house. I was baptized first and then my wife.

    We often have people join who “profess that they have accepted Christ as their savior, and were baptized by another method previously in their life. They choose to join with our congregation and as a sign of unity wish to follow Christ in believer’s baptism.”

    This is simply the Baptist way. If you don’t agree with it, don’t do it. But if you can use it to draw nearer to God and to identify with the body of believers you are joining – and be identified WITH them – understanding that it doesn’t make you more or less saved … I say welcome aboard.

    I think it’s wrong to make a big issue about it – it’s divisive, and that’s not from God.

    Regarding sprinkling – I’m not a Bible scholar, but I understood that the only real translation for the original word for baptism was immersion. But really, it doesn’t matter. If you don’t have Christ in your heart, it doesn’t matter which method you choose, because you’re just all wet.

  8. Posted September 13, 2007 at 7:48 AM | Permalink

    Mike, thanks for stopping by and for the encouragement. The scenarios you’ve described make sense to me. I actually have a lot of sympathy for the Baptist “way” – waiting to be baptized until you’re old enough to make a conscious choice is in line with the attitudes that I’ve developed as an adult. That said, I never had the experience of “confirmation”, so that may be coloring my views.

    I certainly don’t see “magic” in the act of baptism – salvation happens when you ask Christ into your heart and confess him as Lord. I understand baptism to be an outward demonstration of that choice and a “sign of unity” with the church.

    Based on what I’ve read and learned, I don’t think that this church is withholding acknowledgment of salvation until you’re baptized by immersion, but I certainly will seek clarification.

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