Based on your comments about the KJV, I am wondering if you use the original 1611 version? Otherwise, you too are using a “modernized” translation. If not, you may want to get a copy. This may cause you to adjust your position.

Regardless, I pray that God blesses you my brother.

TAG

First off….all three translations mentioned (and indeed all translations based on Alexandrian texts) are faulty.

The only English translation that should be used is the venerable and irrefutable King James (Authorised) Version.

You only need to Google this and you will see why.

Our Church insists on using the NIV but I use my KJV. I do possess almost all translations which includes the Spanish Reina-Valera 1960. I use these for comparison only. I have even more versions on e-Sword.

My devotional reading is from a plain text KJV and my main Study Bible is the KJV Ryrie Study Bible.

I believe that this gender-neutrality of modern translations is a heresy of the highest order and borders on idolatry. Man, yet again, is pressurised by “society” to conform to society’s “niceties” and political correctness, and turns its back on God’s Commandments/Law.

I have stopped using all translations based on the “minority texts”.

I have read what a professional Bible translator had to say and he does criticize the TNIV so I know what both of you are saying is not based on the truth. Why should I visit your website when the very first reason you give is not based on truth?

But thanks anyways, you two have given me another reason to not trust the TNIV. A faulty foundation.

I invite you to visit out TNIV Truth blog where we try to tell the truth about the TNIV. It is not a perfect translation, and we are inviting input so that it can be improved. Its translators welcome suggestions for improvement. But it is also not deserving of the uninformed criticism which it has received. I know of no Bible translation scholars who agree with the criticisms of the TNIV. Even the revisions in the messianic passages of the Old Testament have made the TNIV more accurate. It is necessary to do independent study, apart from those who criticize the TNIV so quickly, to find out why the TNIV is even more accurate than the NIV.

I am a Bible translator myself and I have been deeply concerned about the shallow scholarship and slander which has been brought against the TNIV. It is not enough that those who criticize the TNIV are godly men who preach so well and are highly respected. To be able to speak adequately on Bible translation issues one needs, also, to have sufficient training, education, and experience to speak accurately on the Bible translation matters involved.

Join us on the TNIV Truth blog and we can deal with these issues there, also. We try to be completely fair and honest. We are willing to criticize the TNIV ourselves when it truly needs revision.

Sadly, I am reminded of reading my college’s alumni magazine and seeing a letter from a male alumnus in response to a prior article about women choosing to take their husband’s name (or not). I don’t have the specific quote in front of me, but the gist was that he and his wife had decided to combine their last names into a new name, in part because her last name was “…son”, which he called “an offending male suffix”. “These people” are out there…

The Gender Language Policy in Bible Translation

Some people today ignore the Bible’s teachings on distinctive roles of men and women in family and church and have an agenda to eliminate those distinctions in every arena of life. These people have begun a program to engineer the removal of a perceived male bias in the English language. The targets of this program have been such traditional linguistic practices as the generic use of “man” or “men,” as well as “he,” “him,” and “his.”

A group of Bible scholars, translators, and other evangelical leaders met in 1997 to
respond to this issue as it affects Bible translation. This group produced the “Guidelines for Translation of Gender-Related Language in Scripture” (adopted May 27, 1997 and revised September 9, 1997). The Holman CSB® was produced in accordance with these guidelines.

The goal of the Holman CSB translators has not been to promote a cultural ideology but to faithfully translate the Bible. While the Holman CSB avoids using “man” or “he” unnecessarily, the translation does not restructure sentences to avoid them when they are in the text. For example, Holman CSB translators have not changed “him” to “you” or to “them,” neither have they avoided other masculine words such as “father” or “son” by translating them in generic terms such as “parent” or “child.”

Where has this been done, Randy?

As for the scholars you respect, unfortunately none of them is a recognised expert on Bible translation principles. Their concerns are mostly based on ignorance of how language and translation work. Try reading what professional Bible translators have to say about TNIV and the campaign against it, see for example the TNIV Truth blog.

I’ve expanded a bit more on this topic in a new post.