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		<title>By: Jeff Spaulding</title>
		<link>http://heissufficient.com/2007/12/15/a-visual-introduction-to-the-tniv-reference-bible/#comment-527</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Spaulding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 04:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate your keeping the conversation about the TNIV going.  As a United Methodist pastor, I don&#039;t personally like the NRSV, and while I like the NIV, I like the TNIV much better.  I do think it will slowly gain acceptance as long as those who like and appreciate it keep the conversation alive.

I was actually thinking about something length/width-wise BETWEEN the TNIV Thinline and the TNIV XL, and a bit thinner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate your keeping the conversation about the TNIV going.  As a United Methodist pastor, I don&#8217;t personally like the NRSV, and while I like the NIV, I like the TNIV much better.  I do think it will slowly gain acceptance as long as those who like and appreciate it keep the conversation alive.</p>
<p>I was actually thinking about something length/width-wise BETWEEN the TNIV Thinline and the TNIV XL, and a bit thinner.</p>
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		<title>By: ElShaddai Edwards</title>
		<link>http://heissufficient.com/2007/12/15/a-visual-introduction-to-the-tniv-reference-bible/#comment-526</link>
		<dc:creator>ElShaddai Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 03:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comments, Jeff, and thanks for stopping by! It&#039;s good to get feedback from people actually using the TNIV RB in &quot;the field&quot;.

I can appreciate your work on ribbons now that I&#039;ve acquired my first Bible with a modest two markers - they really do come in handy and save needing actual bookmarks or paper slips. I&#039;m finding myself wishing for at least three these days...

As for your last request, of a larger thinline, did you mean of the Reference Bible, or just the TNIV in general? If the latter, be sure to check out the TNIV XL, which is a larger text size thinline setting. I&#039;ve not been of fan of Zondervan&#039;s thinline due to paper transparency issues, but this otherwise has a very nice form factor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comments, Jeff, and thanks for stopping by! It&#8217;s good to get feedback from people actually using the TNIV RB in &#8220;the field&#8221;.</p>
<p>I can appreciate your work on ribbons now that I&#8217;ve acquired my first Bible with a modest two markers &#8211; they really do come in handy and save needing actual bookmarks or paper slips. I&#8217;m finding myself wishing for at least three these days&#8230;</p>
<p>As for your last request, of a larger thinline, did you mean of the Reference Bible, or just the TNIV in general? If the latter, be sure to check out the TNIV XL, which is a larger text size thinline setting. I&#8217;ve not been of fan of Zondervan&#8217;s thinline due to paper transparency issues, but this otherwise has a very nice form factor.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Spaulding</title>
		<link>http://heissufficient.com/2007/12/15/a-visual-introduction-to-the-tniv-reference-bible/#comment-525</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Spaulding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 03:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Several thoughts occur to me as I&#039;ve read these and other comments about the TNIVRB:

The size is ok, and it&#039;s true that the text is really pretty easy on the eyes.  But this edition really is a heavy weight.  Holding it in one hand to teach/preach with is no easy feat (maybe this is just me).

In defense of red-letter, while I agree with everything that&#039;s been said against the use of red letter editions, when I read aloud to the congregation, my reading tone and inflections change when I&#039;m reading Jesus&#039; words in conversation or a monologue.  It helps me to note the coming change as I&#039;m reading publicly, and I do the same thing when I copy/paste Bible text into a sermon or teaching lesson.  Setting it apart, as long as it is understood that we shouldn&#039;t be worshiping the words themselves, is helpful at least to me.

As for a single ribbon marker, this is probably against some religious law, but since I rely upon multiple markings when studying or reading aloud, a long time ago I began carefully cutting out the single ribbon marker, and inserting between the binding and the cover a 4 or 5 color quality ribbon marker available from Cokesbury stores or their catalogue.  I have even gone so far as to permanently glue this in, and the result is fantastic!

I&#039;m thrilled that Zondervan is expanding the TNIV editions, and like others, hope it will continue into higher grades of leather.  I also wouldn&#039;t mind seeing a true thinline edition in a slightly larger length/width than the current &quot;thinline&quot;.

I really appreciate blogs like this, and receive tremendous encouragement from this and others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Several thoughts occur to me as I&#8217;ve read these and other comments about the TNIVRB:</p>
<p>The size is ok, and it&#8217;s true that the text is really pretty easy on the eyes.  But this edition really is a heavy weight.  Holding it in one hand to teach/preach with is no easy feat (maybe this is just me).</p>
<p>In defense of red-letter, while I agree with everything that&#8217;s been said against the use of red letter editions, when I read aloud to the congregation, my reading tone and inflections change when I&#8217;m reading Jesus&#8217; words in conversation or a monologue.  It helps me to note the coming change as I&#8217;m reading publicly, and I do the same thing when I copy/paste Bible text into a sermon or teaching lesson.  Setting it apart, as long as it is understood that we shouldn&#8217;t be worshiping the words themselves, is helpful at least to me.</p>
<p>As for a single ribbon marker, this is probably against some religious law, but since I rely upon multiple markings when studying or reading aloud, a long time ago I began carefully cutting out the single ribbon marker, and inserting between the binding and the cover a 4 or 5 color quality ribbon marker available from Cokesbury stores or their catalogue.  I have even gone so far as to permanently glue this in, and the result is fantastic!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m thrilled that Zondervan is expanding the TNIV editions, and like others, hope it will continue into higher grades of leather.  I also wouldn&#8217;t mind seeing a true thinline edition in a slightly larger length/width than the current &#8220;thinline&#8221;.</p>
<p>I really appreciate blogs like this, and receive tremendous encouragement from this and others.</p>
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		<title>By: ElShaddai Edwards</title>
		<link>http://heissufficient.com/2007/12/15/a-visual-introduction-to-the-tniv-reference-bible/#comment-524</link>
		<dc:creator>ElShaddai Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comments, tc. I&#039;ve been coming more and more to long for multiple ribbons in my Bibles - a rarity in my experience thus far. And the font size issue was something I noted from the beginning - they easily could have bumped it up a point or two and made a &quot;good&quot; edition border on &quot;great.&quot;

I haven&#039;t had the binding problems, but I also haven&#039;t used it much more than my initial review. It&#039;s still in the slipcover on my shelf...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comments, tc. I&#8217;ve been coming more and more to long for multiple ribbons in my Bibles &#8211; a rarity in my experience thus far. And the font size issue was something I noted from the beginning &#8211; they easily could have bumped it up a point or two and made a &#8220;good&#8221; edition border on &#8220;great.&#8221;</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t had the binding problems, but I also haven&#8217;t used it much more than my initial review. It&#8217;s still in the slipcover on my shelf&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: tc</title>
		<link>http://heissufficient.com/2007/12/15/a-visual-introduction-to-the-tniv-reference-bible/#comment-523</link>
		<dc:creator>tc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 05:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got my TNIVRB today.

Pros:

1. Good layout.

2. Good references.

3. Good printing and paper for this edition.

Cons:

1. One ribbon (two ribbons would have been good for the pastor).

2. Size of the font is too small (9.8 would have been good or more).

3. The binding is already turning loosing in the spine.   I was at a local bookstore checking out the copies that they have, and the problem is the same.

I hope this is corrected in future printing.

However, the TNIV is a very accurate translation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got my TNIVRB today.</p>
<p>Pros:</p>
<p>1. Good layout.</p>
<p>2. Good references.</p>
<p>3. Good printing and paper for this edition.</p>
<p>Cons:</p>
<p>1. One ribbon (two ribbons would have been good for the pastor).</p>
<p>2. Size of the font is too small (9.8 would have been good or more).</p>
<p>3. The binding is already turning loosing in the spine.   I was at a local bookstore checking out the copies that they have, and the problem is the same.</p>
<p>I hope this is corrected in future printing.</p>
<p>However, the TNIV is a very accurate translation.</p>
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		<title>By: tc</title>
		<link>http://heissufficient.com/2007/12/15/a-visual-introduction-to-the-tniv-reference-bible/#comment-522</link>
		<dc:creator>tc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 21:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the picks.  I order one from Amazon and should be getting it this week.

I really like the flow of the TNIV and it is quite faithful to the original, contrary to the many detractors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the picks.  I order one from Amazon and should be getting it this week.</p>
<p>I really like the flow of the TNIV and it is quite faithful to the original, contrary to the many detractors.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesus Saenz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jesus Saenz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 20:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The font doesn&#039;t seem to bad, except when compared to the NASB SCR but the NASB SCR is too large a book in my opinion.  The TNIV is large enough but doesn&#039;t seem bulky like the NASB.  This may be the TNIV I will eventually buy.

The NASB Wide Margin (In Touch Ministries) does not have cross references.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The font doesn&#8217;t seem to bad, except when compared to the NASB SCR but the NASB SCR is too large a book in my opinion.  The TNIV is large enough but doesn&#8217;t seem bulky like the NASB.  This may be the TNIV I will eventually buy.</p>
<p>The NASB Wide Margin (In Touch Ministries) does not have cross references.</p>
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		<title>By: ElShaddai Edwards</title>
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		<dc:creator>ElShaddai Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 16:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sz, I can&#039;t find my callipers right now, but the point size appears to be the same as or just a hair larger than the TNIV Church Bible hardback, so a point or two larger than the Thinline.

Okay... looked it up. ChristianBook.com says that the thinline is 7pt. Zondervan says the Church Bible is 8.8pt, while the Reference Bible is 9/9.25pt (I always forget what it means when they list two sizes like that). I would liked to have seen 10 or 11pt...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sz, I can&#8217;t find my callipers right now, but the point size appears to be the same as or just a hair larger than the TNIV Church Bible hardback, so a point or two larger than the Thinline.</p>
<p>Okay&#8230; looked it up. ChristianBook.com says that the thinline is 7pt. Zondervan says the Church Bible is 8.8pt, while the Reference Bible is 9/9.25pt (I always forget what it means when they list two sizes like that). I would liked to have seen 10 or 11pt&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: scripturezealot</title>
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		<dc:creator>scripturezealot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 16:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad it&#039;s a Holy Bible and not a regular one.

Does anyone know the point size of the typeface or what it is compared to the thinline?

My friend has the NASB and it feels like it weighs a ton. The TNIV would probably feel nice weight-wise but I would agree that it would be nice to have slightly larger text from what I can see. However, I think that typeface is a little easier to read than the typical serif like what the NASB uses.

I hope you know I was joking in the first sentence. Thanks for the pictures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad it&#8217;s a Holy Bible and not a regular one.</p>
<p>Does anyone know the point size of the typeface or what it is compared to the thinline?</p>
<p>My friend has the NASB and it feels like it weighs a ton. The TNIV would probably feel nice weight-wise but I would agree that it would be nice to have slightly larger text from what I can see. However, I think that typeface is a little easier to read than the typical serif like what the NASB uses.</p>
<p>I hope you know I was joking in the first sentence. Thanks for the pictures.</p>
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		<title>By: ElShaddai Edwards</title>
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		<dc:creator>ElShaddai Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 13:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay, the In Touch NASB doesn&#039;t have the cross-references, right? I remember holding that one and being very impressed by the feel of the leather. But for a &quot;big Bible&quot;, cross references are a must (for me).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay, the In Touch NASB doesn&#8217;t have the cross-references, right? I remember holding that one and being very impressed by the feel of the leather. But for a &#8220;big Bible&#8221;, cross references are a must (for me).</p>
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