Comments on: Saying “I love you” without those three little words…

By: youbeng

youbeng — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 15:42:12 +0000

erm..the questions are asked not to the author but to every one who read it haha xD

By: youbeng

youbeng — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 15:38:52 +0000

hey i like what u said. “love is culturally corrupted” haha
The song heart of worship is actually written when Redman’s church was going through the form of worship they are in. The pastors decided that they have no band playing a couple of weeks because worship is not about the song or lyrics, its your heart.
In the song, there is a line “im sorry Lord for the thing i’ve made it” the form that people call it worship, if u just sing a song u sing, it might not be worship. The heart counts and God search in the depths of people’s heart.
When the band is playing out of tune or not in key, when the worship song sang in youth service is so old you got frustrated, when you think the worship team should not be the way they should be.
Question is, will you still CHOOSE to worship?
frankly i cant stand people going conferences and video down the ‘performance’ of the worship team during worship.

By: Steve

Steve — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 04:20:03 +0000

As you probably know from our interaction on my post (called "The Heart of Worship"), I am in complete agreement. It's all about where you put the focus. I don't have any interest at all in songs about me and how special He thinks I am. Redman does a fairly good job in many cases in leaving the "me" focus out, but man, did he drop the ball on "Let My Words Be Few"! Of the big names, I think Tomlin's got some of the most theocentric lyrics. I am really digging Sovereign Grace's music right now, with its steadfast commitment to emphasizing the gospel in their lyrics. Ed. Steve, I hope you don't mind - I added a link to your thoughts on HoW. It's a great post and well worth reading again!

By: ElShaddai Edwards

ElShaddai Edwards — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:24:24 +0000

exlexia wrote:

I was struck by parallels to that hymn and the song “Here I am to Worship,” which I’ve also heard criticized for starting with the emphasis on “me”.

That’s a great observation – it does seem to be a “me” song, though the verses are rightly on track – just the chorus and vamp changes perspective to “me”.

I wonder if the Psalms would stand up to this type of critique, or whether we’re being obsessive with an ascetic mindset. Or is there a critical difference between written poetry and sung verse?

By: Lingamish

Lingamish — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:16:04 +0000

Will, that’s a great quote. A historical perspective can prevent us from condemning our contemporaries and reconsider the validity of amorous language.

By: eclexia

eclexia — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 03:04:01 +0000

Funny, my reaction to the hymn, “How Great Thou Art”–it was just about the only hymn one church I attended ever sang, and sometimes I got so sick of them plugging it in there as if they had done the hymn thing by including it.

By reading your post tonight and thinking through the different songs, I was struck by parallels to that hymn and the song “Here I am to Worship,” which I’ve also heard criticized for starting with the emphasis on “me”.

Now I want to write the two songs out (at least the first verse and chorus of “How Great Thou Art” and compare how they say what they say, and see if they are as similar as I’m thinking or not.

In any case, you’ve given me a good bit to think about.

By: Will

Will — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 23:19:38 +0000

Excellent. You’ve found a way to express a frustration that has plagued me for years. When I was serving as a music pastor I tried very hard to avoid the “boyfriend” songs, but they’re everywhere!

One of my heroes is a Scottish Puritan pastor named Samuel Rutherford. He really loved his Jesus! Here is a taste of how he spoke of Christ while suffering for him in exile:

“It is but our soft and lazy flesh that hath raised an ill report of the cross of Christ. O sweet, sweet is his yoke! Christ’s chains are of pure gold; sufferings for him are perfumed. I would not give my weeping for the laughing of all the fourteen prelates; I would not exchange my sadness with the world’s joy. O lovely, lovely Jesus, how sweet must thy kisses be when they cross smelleth so sweetly!”

By: Lingamish

Lingamish — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:36:08 +0000

Dang, I forgot to mention…

“Let my words be few” is very close to James Blunt’s “You’re beautiful.”

Sing these lines:

“Let my words be few, cuz Jesus I am so in love with you.”

and

“And I don’t know what to do, cuz I’ll never be with you.”

Uncanny, don’t you think?!?

By: Lingamish

Lingamish — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:11:14 +0000

Gross!!

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