Comments on: Is eschatology milk? http://heissufficient.com/2008/05/25/is-eschatology-milk/ Searching for wit and wisdom in a wilderness of words... Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:51:30 +0000 hourly 1 By: brianfulthorp http://heissufficient.com/2008/05/25/is-eschatology-milk/comment-page-1/#comment-1450 brianfulthorp Tue, 27 May 2008 16:55:36 +0000 http://heissufficient.wordpress.com/?p=737#comment-1450 Interesting. I think it depends on how it is discussed. If you mean it is a basic concept to Christianity then yes, it is milk - but I think it can be meat in the sense of helping Christians understand the purpose and nature eschatology and how to integrate that into their thinking. After all, we are the eschatological people of God! Interesting. I think it depends on how it is discussed. If you mean it is a basic concept to Christianity then yes, it is milk – but I think it can be meat in the sense of helping Christians understand the purpose and nature eschatology and how to integrate that into their thinking. After all, we are the eschatological people of God!

]]> By: Patricia Burns http://heissufficient.com/2008/05/25/is-eschatology-milk/comment-page-1/#comment-1449 Patricia Burns Mon, 26 May 2008 20:17:54 +0000 http://heissufficient.wordpress.com/?p=737#comment-1449 Eternal Life in Eternity - In the height of heaven (Job 22:12), in the third heaven (2 Cor.12:2) God inhabits eternity (Isa.57:15) and dwells in Zion (Joel 3:21, Ps.23:6), the city of the living God (Heb.12:22). Christ chose us before the foundation of the world that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love (Eph.1:4): and He gave those He chose eternal life (Jn.10:28-29, Jn.3:36, Jn.17:2). Having been given eternal life, we in Christ Jesus are passed from death unto life (Jn.5:24), never to die, to live with God in Eternity (Isa.57:15), in His kingdom (Dan.7:18, Dan.7:22), an inheritance incorruptible and undefiled that does not fade away (1 Pe.1:3-4). We are of the household of God (Eph.2:19). Patricia © Bible Prophecy on the Web Author of the self-study aid, The Book of Revelation Explained © 1982 Eternal Life in Eternity -

In the height of heaven (Job 22:12), in the third heaven (2 Cor.12:2) God inhabits eternity (Isa.57:15) and dwells in Zion (Joel 3:21, Ps.23:6), the city of the living God (Heb.12:22).

Christ chose us before the foundation of the world that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love (Eph.1:4): and He gave those He chose eternal life (Jn.10:28-29, Jn.3:36, Jn.17:2).

Having been given eternal life, we in Christ Jesus are passed from death unto life (Jn.5:24), never to die, to live with God in Eternity (Isa.57:15), in His kingdom (Dan.7:18, Dan.7:22), an inheritance incorruptible and undefiled that does not fade away (1 Pe.1:3-4).

We are of the household of God (Eph.2:19).

Patricia © Bible Prophecy on the Web
Author of the self-study aid, The Book of Revelation Explained © 1982

]]> By: TC http://heissufficient.com/2008/05/25/is-eschatology-milk/comment-page-1/#comment-1448 TC Sun, 25 May 2008 20:30:25 +0000 http://heissufficient.wordpress.com/?p=737#comment-1448 Bryan, I'm reading NT Wright's Surprised by Hope and the good bishop points to the competing views of the afterlife: 1. Pagans--life outside of the body in some type of glory. 2. Judaism--a final day bodily resurrection. 3. but then he point out how Christain has modified the view in Judaism in four major ways. Dying and going to heaven, he says is not the Christain hope, but renewed life in a renewed world. Elshaddai, I really never thought of "eternal judgment" as "milk." But you're right. At any rate, Is eternal judgment a shorthand for all that we have to know of eschatology, or is it exactly that, eternal? If we go with the late date and the futurist view of Revelation, Would that still be considered "milk"? Bryan, I’m reading NT Wright’s Surprised by Hope and the good bishop points to the competing views of the afterlife: 1. Pagans–life outside of the body in some type of glory. 2. Judaism–a final day bodily resurrection. 3. but then he point out how Christain has modified the view in Judaism in four major ways.

Dying and going to heaven, he says is not the Christain hope, but renewed life in a renewed world.

Elshaddai, I really never thought of “eternal judgment” as “milk.” But you’re right.

At any rate, Is eternal judgment a shorthand for all that we have to know of eschatology, or is it exactly that, eternal?

If we go with the late date and the futurist view of Revelation, Would that still be considered “milk”?

]]> By: Bryan http://heissufficient.com/2008/05/25/is-eschatology-milk/comment-page-1/#comment-1447 Bryan Sun, 25 May 2008 12:26:57 +0000 http://heissufficient.wordpress.com/?p=737#comment-1447 I don't know about eschatology as a whole, I think its a "what"/"how" distinction. If I had to guess, I would say that the author of Hebrews expected the resurrection of the dead to be an elementary issue because of the fact that their faith is based on it, vis a vis the resurrection of Christ, which was widely understood through Paul's writings to be the first-fruits. The final judgment was also something that was not only heavily mentioned by Paul (and Peter, and the other epistles written before Hebrews), but by Jesus himself, and in the Old Testament to a degree. Also, contemporary literature at the time (Qumran, etc) had much to say in terms of a resurrection and judgment. In fact, it seems like everyone except the Sadducees jumped aboard. Ok, maybe "everyone" isn't intellectually honest, but a whole lot ;) I don’t know about eschatology as a whole, I think its a “what”/”how” distinction. If I had to guess, I would say that the author of Hebrews expected the resurrection of the dead to be an elementary issue because of the fact that their faith is based on it, vis a vis the resurrection of Christ, which was widely understood through Paul’s writings to be the first-fruits. The final judgment was also something that was not only heavily mentioned by Paul (and Peter, and the other epistles written before Hebrews), but by Jesus himself, and in the Old Testament to a degree. Also, contemporary literature at the time (Qumran, etc) had much to say in terms of a resurrection and judgment. In fact, it seems like everyone except the Sadducees jumped aboard. Ok, maybe “everyone” isn’t intellectually honest, but a whole lot ;)

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