Hal (serial polygamist) Lindsey and other pretrib-rapture-trafficking and Mayan-Calendar-hugging hucksters deserve the following message: “2012 may be YOUR latest date. It isn’t MAYAN!” Actually, if it weren’t for the 179-year-old, fringe-British-invented, American-merchandised pretribulation rapture bunco scheme, Hal might still be piloting a tugboat on the Mississippi, roly-poly Thomas Ice (Tim LaHaye’s No. 1 strong-arm enforcer) might still be in his tiny folding-chair church which shares its firewall with a Texas saloon, Jack Van Impe might still be a jazz band musician, Tim LaHaye might still be titillating California matrons with his “Christian” sex manual, Grant Jeffrey might still be taking care of figures up in Canada, Chuck Missler might still be in mysterious hush-hush stuff that rocket scientists don’t dare talk about, John Hagee might be making – and eating – world-record pizzas, and Jimmy (“Bye You” Rapture) Swaggart might still be flying on a Ferriday flatbed! To read more details about the eschatological British import that leading British scholarship never adopted – the import that’s created some American multi-millionaires – Google “Pretrib Rapture Diehards” (note LaHaye’s hypocrisy under “1992″), “Hal Lindsey’s Many Divorces,” “Thomas Ice (Bloopers)” and “Thomas Ice (Hired Gun),” “LaHaye’s Temperament,” “Wily Jeffrey,” “Chuck Missler – Copyist,” “Open Letter to Todd Strandberg” and “The Rapture Index (Mad Theology),” “X-Raying Margaret,” “Humbug Huebner,” “Thieves’ Marketing,” “Appendix F: Thou Shalt Not Steal,” “The Unoriginal John Darby,” “Pretrib Hypocrisy,” “The Real Manuel Lacunza,” “Roots of (Warlike) Christian Zionism,” “America’s Pretrib Rapture Traffickers,” “Pretrib Rapture – Hidden Facts,” “Dolcino? Duh!” and “Scholars Weigh My Research.” Most of the above is written by journalist/historian Dave MacPherson who has focused on long-hidden pretrib rapture history for 35+ years. No one else has focused on it for 35 months or even 35 weeks. MacPherson has been a frequent radio talk show guest and he states that all of his royalties have always gone to a nonprofit group and not to any individual. His No. 1 book on all this is “The Rapture Plot” (see Armageddon Books online, etc.). The amazing thing is how long it has taken the mainstream media to finally notice and expose this unbelievably groundless yet extremely lucrative theological hoax!

I agree with James here, something ‘big’ should happen in about 3.5 years….lining up with the first of the ‘Spring feasts’ in 2012, and culminating with the ‘blood moons’ in 2014-15.

If this is NOT the beginning of the Tribulation, and the up-coming ‘blood moons’ are not THE ones to mark the fulfillment of prophesy, then we have 300 more years before they come around again.

Oh, keep in mind that one of the ‘big things’ that did happen that I’m not hearing ANYONE talk about is the fact that on Oct 14th for the first time in 2000 a Jewish feast day was celebrated ON Temple Mount. That is BIG!

On a rather ’shudder worthy’ note, another of the things that happened on one of the feast days was the fact that Nation of Islam leader Louis F. ‘proclaimed’ that Obama was ‘The Messiah’. Does that mean anything? *shrug* I guess we’ll find out in about 3.5 years…or 7…or 300.

God is totally Just (foundational belief)he deals Justly. He deals with all of us in the same way. So if there is a rapture then God must have already judged the earth and is separating the church to him self, so therefore there is no need then for the tribulation.(he doesn’t deal with Christians differently, we all must face the judgment, its just that when Christians are judged they are covered by the blood. Jesus has paid the price that is required)

Nope. The tribulation is to separate the believers from the non believers. It will be the process by which he will separate the wheat from the chaff.

David

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