Comments on: Reflections on the messianic daughter and the image of God http://heissufficient.com/2008/09/23/reflections-on-the-messianic-daughter-and-the-image-of-god/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=reflections-on-the-messianic-daughter-and-the-image-of-god A personal walk in a wilderness of words Tue, 13 Mar 2012 21:07:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: The Church of Jesus Christ | Continuing discussions on John’s Prologue http://heissufficient.com/2008/09/23/reflections-on-the-messianic-daughter-and-the-image-of-god/#comment-4873 The Church of Jesus Christ | Continuing discussions on John’s Prologue Sat, 06 Jun 2009 20:01:34 +0000 http://heissufficient.com/?p=1111#comment-4873 [...] well and Dr. Gayle provides us a post for thought as well. And since I am collecting posts, here is another one from a while [...] [...] well and Dr. Gayle provides us a post for thought as well. And since I am collecting posts, here is another one from a while [...]

]]> By: Joel http://heissufficient.com/2008/09/23/reflections-on-the-messianic-daughter-and-the-image-of-god/#comment-4869 Joel Sat, 06 Jun 2009 15:55:49 +0000 http://heissufficient.com/?p=1111#comment-4869 Thank, ElShaddai. I'll check out those other posts. It makes me feel a little bit more sane if I see it the same way as others. Thank, ElShaddai. I’ll check out those other posts. It makes me feel a little bit more sane if I see it the same way as others.

]]> By: ElShaddai Edwards http://heissufficient.com/2008/09/23/reflections-on-the-messianic-daughter-and-the-image-of-god/#comment-4868 ElShaddai Edwards Sat, 06 Jun 2009 15:33:17 +0000 http://heissufficient.com/?p=1111#comment-4868 FWIW, I tend to agree with you, Joel. I see the Word as Wisdom in action and both are wrapped up in all of the "God said" statements of Genesis 1 referenced in John 1. When we are called to be Christ-like, we are called to use Wisdom to produce/create (logos) works of faith. For more archive reading on this topic, see <a href="http://heissufficient.com/2007/11/09/shadows-of-the-almighty/" rel="nofollow">here</a> and <a href="http://heissufficient.com/2007/11/15/the-creative-plurality-of-god-in-genesis-1/" rel="nofollow">here</a>. FWIW, I tend to agree with you, Joel. I see the Word as Wisdom in action and both are wrapped up in all of the “God said” statements of Genesis 1 referenced in John 1. When we are called to be Christ-like, we are called to use Wisdom to produce/create (logos) works of faith.

For more archive reading on this topic, see here and here.

]]> By: Joel http://heissufficient.com/2008/09/23/reflections-on-the-messianic-daughter-and-the-image-of-god/#comment-4867 Joel Sat, 06 Jun 2009 13:54:55 +0000 http://heissufficient.com/?p=1111#comment-4867 I would disagree with David. I think that John has the Wisdom Lit in mind, especially Sopia, when writing about the Logos. I am thinking here of Wisdom 18.5, which gives the Logos the place of Sophia. It might be, rereading that passage, that the Logos is the active Sophia? I would disagree with David. I think that John has the Wisdom Lit in mind, especially Sopia, when writing about the Logos. I am thinking here of Wisdom 18.5, which gives the Logos the place of Sophia. It might be, rereading that passage, that the Logos is the active Sophia?

]]> By: The Church of Jesus Christ | The Theological, Political, and Social Dangers of (a mistranslation of) John 1.1-3 http://heissufficient.com/2008/09/23/reflections-on-the-messianic-daughter-and-the-image-of-god/#comment-4866 The Church of Jesus Christ | The Theological, Political, and Social Dangers of (a mistranslation of) John 1.1-3 Sat, 06 Jun 2009 13:52:03 +0000 http://heissufficient.com/?p=1111#comment-4866 [...] well and Dr. Gayle provides us a post for thought as well. And since I am collecting posts, here is another one from a while [...] [...] well and Dr. Gayle provides us a post for thought as well. And since I am collecting posts, here is another one from a while [...]

]]> By: David Ker http://heissufficient.com/2008/09/23/reflections-on-the-messianic-daughter-and-the-image-of-god/#comment-4864 David Ker Sat, 06 Jun 2009 12:22:59 +0000 http://heissufficient.com/?p=1111#comment-4864 Wowzer. My question of course is whether this is at all in focus in John 1. I'm sure the LOGOS and SOPHIA traditions in that era interacted but I'm not sure to what extent. I suspect that SOPHIA is not in John's mind in that passage but rather the wisdom vocabulary of the pre-gnostics. Wowzer. My question of course is whether this is at all in focus in John 1. I’m sure the LOGOS and SOPHIA traditions in that era interacted but I’m not sure to what extent. I suspect that SOPHIA is not in John’s mind in that passage but rather the wisdom vocabulary of the pre-gnostics.

]]> By: Brian http://heissufficient.com/2008/09/23/reflections-on-the-messianic-daughter-and-the-image-of-god/#comment-3465 Brian Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:55:22 +0000 http://heissufficient.com/?p=1111#comment-3465 This does look like an interesting read. This does look like an interesting read.

]]> By: tc robinson http://heissufficient.com/2008/09/23/reflections-on-the-messianic-daughter-and-the-image-of-god/#comment-3447 tc robinson Thu, 25 Sep 2008 01:00:54 +0000 http://heissufficient.com/?p=1111#comment-3447 <i>Jesus incarnate as the perfect human being, reflecting the complete image of God as Word and Wisdom, both male and female, flesh and spirit. And when we, as Christians, declare our faith and trust in Christ and are filled with the Holy Spirit, perhaps then we too are becoming complete human beings, reflecting the image of God in physical flesh and spiritual wisdom. Our flesh can be male or female, but without Wisdom, the Spirit of God, Goethe’s eternal feminine (Ewigweibliche), we are an incomplete image of God.</i> Now this is what I call "food for thought." This is deep stuff. And when we think of Jesus as the second Adam and the development of that in 1 Cor 15:20, this is even more amazing. Jesus incarnate as the perfect human being, reflecting the complete image of God as Word and Wisdom, both male and female, flesh and spirit. And when we, as Christians, declare our faith and trust in Christ and are filled with the Holy Spirit, perhaps then we too are becoming complete human beings, reflecting the image of God in physical flesh and spiritual wisdom. Our flesh can be male or female, but without Wisdom, the Spirit of God, Goethe’s eternal feminine (Ewigweibliche), we are an incomplete image of God.

Now this is what I call “food for thought.” This is deep stuff. And when we think of Jesus as the second Adam and the development of that in 1 Cor 15:20, this is even more amazing.

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