Comments on: Contracting the negative “not”… http://heissufficient.com/2009/04/05/contracting-the-negative-not/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=contracting-the-negative-not A personal walk in a wilderness of words Wed, 08 Feb 2012 04:32:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Peter M. Lopez http://heissufficient.com/2009/04/05/contracting-the-negative-not/#comment-4547 Peter M. Lopez Wed, 08 Apr 2009 17:55:27 +0000 http://heissufficient.com/?p=1845#comment-4547 Well, being half Texan makes you twice as good as most. Well, being half Texan makes you twice as good as most.

]]> By: CD-Host http://heissufficient.com/2009/04/05/contracting-the-negative-not/#comment-4538 CD-Host Mon, 06 Apr 2009 20:50:59 +0000 http://heissufficient.com/?p=1845#comment-4538 I mean post resurrection. Take a look at the very first passage in Romans, how this letter starts. "...set apart for the gospel God promised this good news long ago, through his holy prophets...". In other words what is going on RIGHT NOW is the fulfillment of God's promise. We (the Roman congregation) are at a turning point between the promise of the Lord Jesus and the realization of that promise. I mean post resurrection. Take a look at the very first passage in Romans, how this letter starts. “…set apart for the gospel God promised this good news long ago, through his holy prophets…”. In other words what is going on RIGHT NOW is the fulfillment of God’s promise. We (the Roman congregation) are at a turning point between the promise of the Lord Jesus and the realization of that promise.

]]> By: ElShaddai Edwards http://heissufficient.com/2009/04/05/contracting-the-negative-not/#comment-4536 ElShaddai Edwards Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:48:47 +0000 http://heissufficient.com/?p=1845#comment-4536 CD - I didn't want to lose track of your comment. There's much to chew on here - thank you! By "post Messianic age", do you mean post-Resurrection or post-Second Return? The "meanwhile" between advents has been the subject of a sermon series at my church for the past few months, mostly based from 1 Peter, but with plenty of dipping in Paul as well. CD – I didn’t want to lose track of your comment. There’s much to chew on here – thank you!

By “post Messianic age”, do you mean post-Resurrection or post-Second Return? The “meanwhile” between advents has been the subject of a sermon series at my church for the past few months, mostly based from 1 Peter, but with plenty of dipping in Paul as well.

]]> By: ElShaddai Edwards http://heissufficient.com/2009/04/05/contracting-the-negative-not/#comment-4535 ElShaddai Edwards Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:40:31 +0000 http://heissufficient.com/?p=1845#comment-4535 Actually I *do* have some Texas in my blood - my dad grew up south of Houston on the coast... combine that with my mom being from NYC and I can handle most dialect issues! Actually I *do* have some Texas in my blood – my dad grew up south of Houston on the coast… combine that with my mom being from NYC and I can handle most dialect issues!

]]> By: Peter M. Lopez http://heissufficient.com/2009/04/05/contracting-the-negative-not/#comment-4534 Peter M. Lopez Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:26:33 +0000 http://heissufficient.com/?p=1845#comment-4534 "haven't you," indeed! :) I actually caught myself before I submitted "you gotta'" but you and ElShaddai <i>ain't</i> from Texas, so I cleaned it up as best I could. “haven’t you,” indeed! :) I actually caught myself before I submitted “you gotta’” but you and ElShaddai ain’t from Texas, so I cleaned it up as best I could.

]]> By: ElShaddai Edwards http://heissufficient.com/2009/04/05/contracting-the-negative-not/#comment-4533 ElShaddai Edwards Mon, 06 Apr 2009 17:09:43 +0000 http://heissufficient.com/?p=1845#comment-4533 Thanks, Peter (L.) - I'm trying to take <a href="http://beautyofthebible.com/2009/01/28/biblioblogging-burnout/" rel="nofollow">our burnout discussion</a> to heart! Thanks, Peter (L.) – I’m trying to take our burnout discussion to heart!

]]> By: ElShaddai Edwards http://heissufficient.com/2009/04/05/contracting-the-negative-not/#comment-4532 ElShaddai Edwards Mon, 06 Apr 2009 17:08:56 +0000 http://heissufficient.com/?p=1845#comment-4532 Thanks, Peter - I'm trying to ease back into it, but I may get ahead of myself. And please don't stop being pedantic (your word, not mine) - I learn too much from you. Thanks, Peter – I’m trying to ease back into it, but I may get ahead of myself. And please don’t stop being pedantic (your word, not mine) – I learn too much from you.

]]> By: Peter Kirk http://heissufficient.com/2009/04/05/contracting-the-negative-not/#comment-4530 Peter Kirk Mon, 06 Apr 2009 16:57:51 +0000 http://heissufficient.com/?p=1845#comment-4530 ... "haven't you", surely? Yes, I'll go on being a pedant unless people ask me to stop. And it's good to have you back blogging, ElShaddai. … “haven’t you”, surely? Yes, I’ll go on being a pedant unless people ask me to stop. And it’s good to have you back blogging, ElShaddai.

]]> By: Peter M. Lopez http://heissufficient.com/2009/04/05/contracting-the-negative-not/#comment-4529 Peter M. Lopez Mon, 06 Apr 2009 16:48:53 +0000 http://heissufficient.com/?p=1845#comment-4529 There's the Elshaddai Edwards I know and love. ...and you've got to love Peter Kirk too, don't you? There’s the Elshaddai Edwards I know and love.

…and you’ve got to love Peter Kirk too, don’t you?

]]> By: Peter Kirk http://heissufficient.com/2009/04/05/contracting-the-negative-not/#comment-4526 Peter Kirk Mon, 06 Apr 2009 11:29:53 +0000 http://heissufficient.com/?p=1845#comment-4526 The Greek verbs are both formally middle or passive imperatives, but of verbs which are found in the New Testament only in these middle or passive forms so it is very dangerous to come to any semantic conclusions about the significance of the Greek voice. The verb translated "conform" is found in the active elsewhere in Greek, but I don't think the one translated "be transformed" is. The Greek verbs are unrelated, so there is no reason in the text to insist on using the English cognates "conform" and "transform". The Greek verbs are both formally middle or passive imperatives, but of verbs which are found in the New Testament only in these middle or passive forms so it is very dangerous to come to any semantic conclusions about the significance of the Greek voice. The verb translated “conform” is found in the active elsewhere in Greek, but I don’t think the one translated “be transformed” is. The Greek verbs are unrelated, so there is no reason in the text to insist on using the English cognates “conform” and “transform”.

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