Comments on: Are you a 4-point American Evangelical?

By: Peter M. Lopez

Peter M. Lopez — Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:05:03 +0000

“too literal” … ?

By: brian

brian — Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:44:11 +0000

Hi, just a fleeting, random visitor from Brian F’s blog. Interesting post.
I would go to the stake for the first sentence of #1, and nothing else in that list.

By: Brian

Brian — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:33:47 +0000

for sure number 4.

By: Iris

Iris — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:08:06 +0000

1, 2 & 4, with a very strong emphasis on 4. #3 is not Biblically accurate according to Romans and Galatians. I too believe the Jewish people will turn to the Lord in massive numbers at some point — but all the people of faith are the true Israel. I do not have trouble with dispensationalism per se — only if one does not complete that understanding with the structure of covenants — not necessarily with what is often called “covenantal theology.”

By the way — #4 cancels out any possibility of another program for an ethnic Israel.

By: New Leaven

New Leaven — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:44:56 +0000

Dismantling Dispensationalism: Jesus has become the New Israel…

For Dispensationationists to insistent on “a distinct program for Israel and a distinct program for the church” is a failure to see Jesus as the New Israel:
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By: tc robinson

tc robinson — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:43:10 +0000

I’d be willing to wager on 1, 2, &4, since they are based on essential teachings of Scripture.

Regarding #3, I put that in the secondary column even those some Dispensationalists tend to label Replacement Theology a heresy.

Seems like he’s a Dispensationalist.

Peter, #3 depends on too literal a reading of OT promises to Israel without factoring her Messiah as a worthy fulfillment and climax to her expectations.

By: Peter M. Lopez

Peter M. Lopez — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:10:54 +0000

Interesting question…

I would be willing to wager my life on 3 & 4 (I tend to have problems with the way 1 & 2 get framed as “issues,” so I’m less certain about those). Qualifier on 3: I think there is a perpetual covenant land for a covenant people, but I don’t think this should lead Christians to blindly support the political state of Israel. What about when that political state decides to give up land? (…) That line of reasoning just seems to leave Christians in awkward situations.