OT: ISBN 0521503868
Apocrypha: ISBN 0521503876 or 0191800112
NT Second Edition: ISBN 0521503884

Note that the 0521 numbers are Cambridge ISBNs; there would be corresponding 0191 Oxford numbers for all volumes as well. Also note that these are the 1970 texts and not the 1972 corrected impressions, if such things matter to you.

Don’t forget about eBay - I picked up my OT on eBay for $0.99! You just have to be patient… one or the other shows up every few weeks or so, and sometimes an entire set.

I personally agree with your comments, but there will always be some people who may not feel the same….

@Eric - I had initially read “in the body” as akin to “of the flesh”, that is, our sinful lives apart from Christ, but that could create some weird sort of Gnostic “physical work” vs “spiritual work” dichotomy. If you take the approach that this is a reward judgment, based on post-confessional works done “in Christ”, then that “2008 American evagelical view” makes more sense inasmuch as it’s referring to the corporate body.

I’ve certainly found sympathy with a corporate reading in many Pauline texts, e.g. election, and so I’m inclined to lean that way again. But I’ll try to take a closer look at the Greek and see if what’s under the covers, so to speak. Certainly it deserves another post!

The NIV renders 2nd Cor. 5:10 as “For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive what is due him for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad.” And I take that “body” reference to be “members of the Church” or “Christians”… but maybe that’s a 2008 American evangelical view?

http://www.mountainretreatorg.net/faq/bema.html has a completely different take on this whole “Bema seat” issue… and uses the King James: “For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.”

The NLT makes that even clearer: “For we must all stand before Christ to be judged. We will each receive whatever we deserve for the good or evil we have done in this earthly body.”

So, what “body” are we really talking about? And if it’s simply talking about the good or evil done while walking around on Earth… what alternative is there to “sinning while in a human body”? Do we take that as “merely” poetic? Do we spin off into some other sort of heresy (like, “Well, clearly there are pre-incarnate souls, because Paul has to clarify that this judgment is of actions done while folks had bodies”)? Something in-between?

I’m over-thinking this, aren’t I?

Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by what I do.”

The two are inextricably linked, ElShaddai. And I think you have put them in the right perspective, in that the one determines salvation and the other the reward.

John Wesley considered the man who did his good deeds but had no faith. He said the deeds were “but a shadow” of what they would have been had the man had faith. They are like an empty shell. The man who has faith, his deeds are full because of his faith.

I agree with James here, something ‘big’ should happen in about 3.5 years….lining up with the first of the ‘Spring feasts’ in 2012, and culminating with the ‘blood moons’ in 2014-15.

If this is NOT the beginning of the Tribulation, and the up-coming ‘blood moons’ are not THE ones to mark the fulfillment of prophesy, then we have 300 more years before they come around again.

Oh, keep in mind that one of the ‘big things’ that did happen that I’m not hearing ANYONE talk about is the fact that on Oct 14th for the first time in 2000 a Jewish feast day was celebrated ON Temple Mount. That is BIG!

On a rather ’shudder worthy’ note, another of the things that happened on one of the feast days was the fact that Nation of Islam leader Louis F. ‘proclaimed’ that Obama was ‘The Messiah’. Does that mean anything? *shrug* I guess we’ll find out in about 3.5 years…or 7…or 300.

I doubt it. But I did sense urgency among the team for getting the translation done quickly.

I can’t remember if it was Zondervan or Tyndale that said the publisher doesn’t sit in on the translation committee meetings.

That would be Zondervan. Neither the publisher (Zondervan) nor copyright holder (IBS) sits in on meetings of the CBT that revises the NIV and TNIV.

I’ve noticed you’re part of the ISV team.

Well, only as a volunteer reviewer. I have nothing to do with translation decisions made by the ISV team itself. Anyone can help review the ISV. Those who do a fair amount get their names listed on an ISV page for reviewers.